Comments on: Left 4 Dead 2 The Passing not yet available for PC http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/ Your site for video games news, reviews, previews, pew pews and QQs Sat, 11 Feb 2012 23:01:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Justin http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2900 Justin Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:16:25 +0000 http://mmomfg.com/?p=10453#comment-2900 @<a href="http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2899" rel="nofollow">Not Really</a>: True but if you're in the business of making stellar games like Valve, maybe you can get away with it. @<a href="http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2898" rel="nofollow">3:55 PM EDT and counting</a>: Well said. The communication could be a tad bit better. Especially with how good Valve is at rewarding their PC fanbase. @Not Really:
True but if you’re in the business of making stellar games like Valve, maybe you can get away with it.

@3:55 PM EDT and counting: Well said. The communication could be a tad bit better. Especially with how good Valve is at rewarding their PC fanbase.

]]> By: Not Really http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2899 Not Really Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:59:02 +0000 http://mmomfg.com/?p=10453#comment-2899 Yes, the whining is childish and pointless, but complaints about horrid customer expectation management are spot on. I'm a relatively new Steam user so I didn't know to assume that PC users would get it later and I have not seen it stated anywhere that PC users would not get it at a different time than 11AM PDT. I'm not going to cry and whine about it (especially since it's free and the only reason I can even check is that I'm WFH due to illness), but i can assure you that my company can not get away with shoddy information like this. We would be out of business for loss of customers due to poor customer service and customer relations. Yes, the whining is childish and pointless, but complaints about horrid customer expectation management are spot on. I’m a relatively new Steam user so I didn’t know to assume that PC users would get it later and I have not seen it stated anywhere that PC users would not get it at a different time than 11AM PDT. I’m not going to cry and whine about it (especially since it’s free and the only reason I can even check is that I’m WFH due to illness), but i can assure you that my company can not get away with shoddy information like this. We would be out of business for loss of customers due to poor customer service and customer relations.

]]> By: 3:55 PM EDT and counting http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2898 3:55 PM EDT and counting Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:56:34 +0000 http://mmomfg.com/?p=10453#comment-2898 I think the problem most people have with Valve's typical behavior in these matters is that just because you're doing something for free, doesn't mean you're entitled to blow off your commitments. If you tell a friend you're going to help him/her move at 12:00 PM on Saturday, and don't show up until 3:00 -- and don't bother calling to let anyone know you're delayed -- is everything okey-dokey just cuz you're doing it for free? Or is it possible you're throwing a major wrench into his/her plans? (Depends on the friend, I guess, but...) You might say "but it's just a video game", but I and many others say "business is business". My relationship with Valve is of a commercial/business nature; we're not buds. As for the bonus of it being free, well... Xbox fools pay the price because they entered into a deal with the devil -- aka M$ -- to begin with. PC people, I think we feel we are owed, #1 because of the scandal with all the unfulfilled promises of L4D1, and #2, the game is just kinda shallow. How much can you really play the same 4-5 maps before it just gets stupid-boring? (My answer: about 1.5-2.5 months.) Not ranting and not really chomping at the bit for this DLC as the fire went out of L4D/2 for me long ago -- though curiosity is growing... ;) Just trying to give some perspective. See u there l8r, maybe... I think the problem most people have with Valve’s typical behavior in these matters is that just because you’re doing something for free, doesn’t mean you’re entitled to blow off your commitments.

If you tell a friend you’re going to help him/her move at 12:00 PM on Saturday, and don’t show up until 3:00 — and don’t bother calling to let anyone know you’re delayed — is everything okey-dokey just cuz you’re doing it for free? Or is it possible you’re throwing a major wrench into his/her plans? (Depends on the friend, I guess, but…)

You might say “but it’s just a video game”, but I and many others say “business is business”. My relationship with Valve is of a commercial/business nature; we’re not buds.

As for the bonus of it being free, well… Xbox fools pay the price because they entered into a deal with the devil — aka M$ — to begin with. PC people, I think we feel we are owed, #1 because of the scandal with all the unfulfilled promises of L4D1, and #2, the game is just kinda shallow. How much can you really play the same 4-5 maps before it just gets stupid-boring? (My answer: about 1.5-2.5 months.)

Not ranting and not really chomping at the bit for this DLC as the fire went out of L4D/2 for me long ago — though curiosity is growing… ;) Just trying to give some perspective.

See u there l8r, maybe…

]]> By: Stylus http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2896 Stylus Thu, 22 Apr 2010 19:42:01 +0000 http://mmomfg.com/?p=10453#comment-2896 http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time

]]> By: Blue http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2892 Blue Thu, 22 Apr 2010 18:16:25 +0000 http://mmomfg.com/?p=10453#comment-2892 Typical Valve. I wonder if they have the same clock as Microsoft thats says one thing but means another? :) Typical Valve. I wonder if they have the same clock as Microsoft thats says one thing but means another? :)

]]> By: Justin http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2891 Justin Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:01:33 +0000 http://mmomfg.com/?p=10453#comment-2891 Sounds like fun, and yes you're probably right. Normally Valve does a 12:00pm PST release for their games. People just fail to understand this everytime a new game comes out Sounds like fun, and yes you’re probably right. Normally Valve does a 12:00pm PST release for their games. People just fail to understand this everytime a new game comes out

]]> By: Xp1Dell http://mmomfg.com/2010/04/22/left-for-dead-the-passing-crybabies-0421/comment-page-1/#comment-2890 Xp1Dell Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:23:06 +0000 http://mmomfg.com/?p=10453#comment-2890 I was playing with a L4D2 Developer last night, they were in a Versus game. While we were in the lobby I asked what time The Passing is being released, he said 12 - 3 EST so it should be out soon today. I was playing with a L4D2 Developer last night, they were in a Versus game. While we were in the lobby I asked what time The Passing is being released, he said 12 – 3 EST so it should be out soon today.

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